Phoenix Rising: Navigating Grief and Rebirth

Navigating grief's landscape requires more than just endurance—it demands intention and understanding. In this raw, transformative episode, we explore how grief extends far beyond death to encompass career losses, relationship endings, and shifting identities.

The journey begins with a counterintuitive truth: grief moves faster when we intentionally step into it rather than avoid it. By creating space to fully experience our emotions—scheduling actual time to feel them—we allow that heavy energy to move through our bodies rather than becoming trapped and manifesting as physical pain or illness.

What sets this approach apart is the SAFE framework: Shift your stories and beliefs about the loss, Align your thoughts and feelings with these new narratives, Forgive everyone involved (including yourself), and Eliminate the remaining elements that no longer serve your healing. This structured process creates a roadmap through terrain that often feels impossible to navigate.

Perhaps most profound is the distinction between pain and suffering. Pain—inevitable and temporary—naturally dissipates when we release our grip on what was. Suffering, however, results from our choice to cling to the familiar, transforming short-term pain into prolonged anguish. By honoring what we've lost and allowing it to transform rather than desperately holding on, we participate in life's natural cycles of death and rebirth.

Like the phoenix rising from ashes or a snake shedding its skin, grief offers the opportunity for profound transformation. When your world feels like it's burning down around you, remember: you're not dying—you're being reborn. The question becomes not how to avoid the fire, but how to harness its transformative power to emerge renewed, with wings ready to soar.

Transcript

Understanding Different Types of Grief

Speaker 1 1:12

Today we're going to talk about grieving, grieving loss, and grieving isn't always about losing someone like a friend or family member to death. Sometimes we can lose other things, like our careers, our marriages, our connection with our kids. There's so much in life that can happen unexpectedly that grieving is a process we should all get familiar with or maybe not familiar, but at least create a system, create a method, a ritual, a routine, whatever it is that you can turn to in those moments that will help you process that grief, that will help you process that grief. Grief is something that can be very, very heavy energy in the body and can cause a lot of issues, whether it's pain over time from tightness and stiffness, from lack of movement. It can be pain in the form of disease, because your body begins to break down, because your mind is just constantly in a state of suffering.

Speaker 1 2:18

Grieving is something that I don't think many people have actually learned how to move through, and yet it's something I get complimented on every time I move through it myself Because it's something I've had to deal with. I wouldn't say a lot, but I would say I've had to deal with in my life and time and time again I find that I move through it faster and faster and faster than other people. And the goal is not speed. Let me be very clear. Speed is not the goal when it comes to grieving. It's the efficiency or the depth of it. And I don't know. I've gotten this compliment so many times and I don't know that it's a compliment. Maybe it's just an observation, right, but the observation is Jaina, how did you get over that so fast? Now let me be sure that you understand. I grieve like everyone else, in the sense that grieving comes in waves, and I might look very not okay one day, and then very okay the next, and then randomly not okay, and so it's just like everyone else.

Speaker 1 3:33

Our brains take time to process, the body takes time to get the energy through it, and there are certain things that we can do to help this process just happen versus avoiding it. And so let's get into it. I sat with myself. After hearing this from multiple people multiple times, I finally sat down and was like, okay, I need to sit down and think about what am I actually doing, what am I doing to get myself through this? Because at the time, it wasn't 100% conscious, it was very unconscious, it was super subconscious. I was just. These are things I've learned over time that I'm now aware of and I'm going to share that with you. I'm now aware of and I'm going to share that with you.

Speaker 1 4:20

So the very first thing that I do, when anything comes up right Whether it's a loss of a friend, whether it's a loss of a career, a job, a relationship, whatever it is I push myself to sit in the pain. I push myself to clear at least an hour off my calendar, to just sit in it, to feel angry, to feel sad, to feel frustrated, to feel guilty, to feel shameful, to feel overwhelmed, burdened. Whatever the emotion is, it doesn't matter. It's just allowing myself the opportunity to actually feel all of those emotions. Because the biggest problem people have is that they it's almost like they fear being angry or they fear being too sad because they're scared, I'm assuming that it's a slippery slope and they'll never get back out of it, when the truth is, if you just lean into it and sit into it and allow that emotion to naturally pass through your body by getting angry and yelling Maybe not at your kids or at your husband, but go out in the forest and yell, grab a pillow and yell into it. But getting that out of your body is what we need and that's what people avoid, because they either don't want to be seen crying, they don't want to be heard yelling, they don't feel they have a safe place they can let that out, or a safe person they can let it out with, which, in this case, doesn't require anyone else, just sit with it. So, block off time to actually grieve. Put it on your calendar.

Speaker 1 5:47

I gave myself an hour window. Now, it did take a little longer than that, but I gave myself an hour window, which means I allowed myself to be fully present in those feelings. I allowed myself to pause my day and to feel it so that I could heal it, because what most people end up doing is I don't have time for that. I have to get right to this next meeting, I have to get the kids to soccer, I have to get to this and I've got to pick that up from the store, and I just don't have time. It's not in my calendar, it's not in my schedule.

Speaker 1 6:23

Well, you have to make time, because when moments like these happen, when you lose a job unexpectedly, when you have a house foreclose under you, when you have these unexpected things come up. You have to make time for them. Unexpected things come up. You have to make time for them Because if you don't make time now, your world will find a way to slow you down Now. It might not be the most convenient way, which is why I truly like to just sit with it and say what can I remove from my schedule? What is not so important that, like, my world will fall apart if I don't get on this?

Speaker 1 6:58

God bless, I work in an industry that that is so true that I don't work on planes that are going to have to get people places on timely manners and keep them physically from dying. I'm not in an industry like that, and so I have the ability to pause. Maybe you are a EMT where you are on call, and or an ER doctor, and maybe your time. You can't just pause for an hour, right, but you can pause for five minutes. You can pause for any amount of time to let yourself just feel it before you get back up and go back to your day. So that's my challenge is, if you stop and you sit in your pain, schedule an hour and if you don't have an hour, schedule five minutes to start and then, when you get home, five more minutes and then maybe the next day you make time for 10 minutes and then over the next two or three days, you allow yourself five and 10 minute chunks to sit with this and when you sit with it, you fully sit with it, right?

The SAFE Framework for Processing Loss

Speaker 1 8:14

The next thing that I do when I'm grieving is I lean into my community. I lean into my tribe. Right, it's not always family members and it's not always like girlfriends. Sometimes it's business mentors, sometimes it's a random person at a dance class that I go to, sometimes it's someone in the grocery store who I just happen to have a good interaction with. Our community. That's the people around us all the time, not just the people in your closest inner knit tribe. We're talking community. I lean into my community.

Speaker 1 8:58

Most people pull back when grieving. They don't want to be a burden. Oh, I don't want people to feel bad for me. I don't want to slow people down. I don't want to bring down the vibe. So they pull themselves away and they isolate. No, that's what community is here for, right. A burden shared is a burden halved. So share it. Allow us to help you, support you, through that process. Community is everything. Community is the core of co-regulation and if you're feeling dysregulated, crying and upset and in physical pain in your heart and in your mind, then find people who are calm and grounded, find people who are living in a state of love and abundance, and just be with them, have a conversation with them. You will feel better because you'll be co-regulating and not even know it, because their grounded energy is going to be something that feels so familiar but still so distant because you're in the grief. But that familiarity will remind you that you too can get back to that state and that grieving is not a forever process so long as you don't avoid it, right. Grieving moves faster when you actually intentionally step into it. It moves so slow when you try to avoid it, right.

Speaker 1 10:30

The next thing that I do is that I channel what I'm feeling and express it through journaling. I find that through writing with my hand not typing, but writing it out with paper and pen or a tablet and pen and actually physically writing it all down gets it out of my head, out of my body, onto paper. And the reason I typically would use physical paper and pen with this is so that I can burn it afterwards, because in the case of grieving. I want that energy to get out of me and then to transform. And that's what fire allows us to do is to transform that energy, allow it to go into a new path, a new lifetime. Right, that is something I don't think enough people do. They just they don't see the value in sitting down and writing it down. Or some people actually have told me they feel like sitting down and writing it down makes it concrete, makes it real. But yeah, that's part of what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 11:36

Your brain still can't wrap itself around what you have lost. That's part of the confusion, that's part of the stuckness that you're in. Is the oh no, what I knew up till now. My routines are gone. We are humans that are made to love routines. So our routine is now gone and your mind does not know, it has nothing to cling to, and so it's confused and it's lost and it's searching and it just wants to go back to what's familiar. But that's not going to serve you in this moment. So write it down, make it concrete, get it out of your body onto paper and then burn it and allow it to just release and just let it go.

Speaker 1 12:26

Then, after I allow myself to just get it all out on paper and burn it and let it go. Then I move my body, I put on music. Whether that's like, it doesn't matter. If it's angry, I put on angry music. So like Rage Against the Machine, linkin Park, papa Roach, like very raw, like just thrash your body around, just wail and cry and scream and get that energy out of your body. I'm begging you to get it out of your body body. I'm begging you to get it out of your body. That is what causes problems down.

Speaker 1 13:01

The line is that all this big energy comes up and then we hold it inside and we don't let it out. Let the energy out of your body. It is trying to pass through you and if we stop the energy, it stays in us and when. That's what causes blocks, that's what causes issues, that's what causes repeating patterns of pain. So let it go, let it move through you. And how do we do that? We do it through moving our body.

Speaker 1 13:30

So again, put on music, rage it out or maybe it's sad music and you just lay on your bed and cry and then just let your legs drift side to side. Maybe you're swaying in circles or shifting your hips, or maybe you're shaking your shoulders or whatever you need to do to just cry and let it all out. Maybe the way you move your body is to bring joy back into it. Maybe you put on music that you can't help but dance to and you just groove and dance and shake and laugh and then you begin to feel that joy come back into your body as you let that stuck, stagnant energy go and you move your way into the life that you're looking to have right, into the life that you're looking to have right. You move out of grief and you move into peace and calm. It starts with you. It starts with the choice of music. It starts with the choice of movement. It starts with the choice to get up.

Speaker 1 14:45

Then the last thing that I do is I meditate. I meditate and I sit and reflect on my new relationship with this person, place or thing that I just lost, this new relationship, because nothing is lost. It is only ever transformed. So if you have such a strong energy and connection with someone or something, you don't fully lose it, you just it transforms into something different and it might not feel familiar at the start, so it'll feel like it's totally gone, when the truth is it's not, unless you want it to be totally gone and you completely let it go because it's a negative thing, and you're ready to move on, go for it.

Death, Rebirth, and Life Cycles

Speaker 1 15:22

But in most cases, the type of grieving that we're talking about, it's not gone, it's just a new relationship. Maybe it's not a physical relationship here tangibly on this planet, but there is still an energetic relationship there. Whatever relationship you choose to have in your mind is yours. So these are the steps that I take. Every time I push myself to sit in the pain, I allow myself to pause so I can feel it and heal it. So by blocking time on my calendar, I lean into my community for that support. I channel what I'm feeling and express it through journaling. I move my body by dancing, walking, lifting weights, doing yoga and I meditate on my new relationship with them. Those are the steps that I go through and I created a framework to kind of remind me of some of the bigger picture steps to make sure that I go through all the main points right. So how I remember this is it's just the word safe S-A-F-E.

Speaker 1 16:34

So the S stands for shift. I want to shift my story and my beliefs. Okay, so we will create a story around this loss, and the stories that we create are not always supportive of us and our future. So, in this case, I want you to look at what story you're telling yourself about this loss, whether it be you giving meaning to the reason why you lost the job or had the divorce, or meaning why a friendship crumbled. These meanings that we give it are not true. They just are. They're something we get to choose. So choose, look at the stories, choose new stories and choose new beliefs. So shift S? S shift your story and belief. A is align. I want you to align your thoughts, feelings and behaviors with this new story and these new beliefs.

Speaker 1 17:30

So sometimes we shift our story, but we don't allow our physical self to shift too. So how do you do that? Well, your story shifts, which means the next step is your thoughts shift. Right, your thoughts are your stories. So how you're thinking about this begins to shift. Then the next thing is how you're feeling about this, because it now has new thoughts, and a new story means that we have a new association, and so that allows us to either feel more or less connected to something when we have an association.

Speaker 1 18:03

So take, for example, you have a, let's just say you have a parent and that parent was not a great parent in your world, in your definition of what they should have been as a parent, and so you lost contact. You didn't really talk to them and now they've passed. So when they were here on this planet, you may have had a negative association to them, causing you to not want a relationship. But now that they're passed, even though you didn't have a relationship, you still are going through the grieving process. It's natural, especially for a parent, because we are physically connected. It's okay also if you're not going through this grieving process. Just a hypothetical example.

Speaker 1 18:46

So what we do is we shift our story right, we begin to see things a little bit differently, we give them grace, we allow ourselves to shift the story and then, once you shift those stories, now these feelings about that parent might be different. So while they were here on the planet, you may have had some negative association, some just negative thoughts and feelings that come up every time their name pops into a conversation. But now, because you've given it a new story and you have a new belief system, you have new thoughts happening. You now have a positive association and you can look back and remember all the good things that they did do. Because when we have a negative association to a human being, it is very hard to see the good days and the good moments and the laughter. It's so easy to just tune in on all the negative. So, shifting that association. Now, this also goes for people who have not passed away, who are still on this planet. Look at your story and shift the association. So when their name pops up in a conversation in your head, you now think of all the fun, amazing times with them, all the laughter, all the good memories. Right, our associations matter. So align your thoughts and feelings and then, naturally, your behaviors will follow that right.

Speaker 1 20:10

The F stands for forgive. I want you to forgive all that is involved, all that is involved, every person, place or thing. Forgive what caused the loss. Forgive the person or place or thing who was lost. Forgive anyone who is part of the decision making or any of the chain of events that led up to that event. Just forgive everyone and don't forget yourself, because we deserve forgiveness too. So be sure that you shift your story, you align your thoughts, feelings and behaviors and you forgive all that are involved.

Speaker 1 20:57

And then E stands for eliminate. Eliminate the remaining people, places and things that no longer support this new belief system. So you've shifted your thoughts and stories. You've allowed your thoughts and feelings and behaviors to align with that. You've forgiven yourself and everyone else, and now is the opportunity to eliminate. If there's someone in your life or a place or a thing that brings you back to the old story, that keeps you connected to the old thoughts, let them go. Let it go. Choose a new place to go work out, choose a new park to go walk, choose a new vet to take your dog to, whatever it is, and allow yourself, in fact, give yourself permission to eliminate anything from your life that no longer supports this new vision, belief and story in your life, because that is what's going to make it concrete, that is what's going to instill it. Our environment and energy impact ourselves first and foremost, and if your environment, aka your friends, your coworkers, your family are not supporting this new belief system, the new belief system will not stick and stay. We have to be so intentional about surrounding ourselves with people, places and things that support where we're headed, not where we've been.

Speaker 1 22:20

Now, I know that was a lot, but I'm really hoping that I drilled it in so that you can remember next time you are ready. Just think of being safe, shift, align, forgive, eliminate, super powerful. And this can be used in anywhere in life. It does not need to be just be in the grieving process Anytime you want to shift your story, shift your thoughts and beliefs and then forgive people and eliminate. This is something you can use all the time in your life, but I use it specifically a lot when it comes to grieving with myself or my clients.

Pain vs. Suffering: A Critical Distinction

Speaker 1 22:56

Because here's the truth of it. The core of all of it when it comes to me is I had to sit down and say that I accepted a long time ago that death and rebirth are simply a part of life. They're just cycles and rhythms. They're going to come and go throughout my entire life and the more I try and control it, the more difficult the process will be. But the more I accept death and rebirth is simply a part of the life cycle, the easier it gets.

Speaker 1 23:29

And I think I I had to face the blatant truth that if I went down this path with this human, I had like a 99% chance of him dying before me Now we don't ever know when our time is. So I have a lot of friends who they assume my partner is going to die before me and that their partner is going to live forever with them because their partners are the same age. And yet I have friends who have lost their husbands to freak accidents or their wives to freak accidents, and they never planned for it, they never thought it could be them. They thought we're so young, we have so much time. But at 23, I recognized that, taking this step into this relationship, I have to be okay with death. It is in my face every day. We talk about it a lot at home. What's going to happen afterwards? How we would move? Will I be okay? Where would I live? What would I do? How's my business Like all the things? We talk about this all the time.

Speaker 1 25:00

So death is not something I'm scared of, because it is just the transition to your next life, your next rebirth. The reason why so many people get so wrapped up in this fear of death is because they don't actually think about the fact that you get to be rebirthed afterwards. Now I also know that's a belief system thing and that I do stand firmly in the camp. Well, firmly is a strong word. I stand in the camp of believing that we have multiple lives and that we are simply light energy in a meat sack of a body and that, as soon as this physical body runs its course, that my light energy will leave this body and it will go into the next. And I'm excited about that, and not so excited that I'm like rushing to get there, like it's okay, calm down, but excited that I know that, like there is no fear, because I know there is no end. Everything is eternal, everything is ongoing, everything is forever and so we are forever. Our love is forever. Whether our memory is forever does not matter, but our energy will forever be on this planet, over and over and over, in my belief system. So that excites me.

Speaker 1 26:20

So I'm here to do all that I can in this lifetime, to love as much as I can in this lifetime, to live as much as I can in this lifetime, but to not have so much FOMO that I hold on to old things, because most people struggle with grieving, I think because they fight it, they cling to the old, they want to stay in what's familiar and a lot of people don't like change. And well, actually, they don't like unexpected change. They can't control, because if you give them a positive change, like a boatload of money coming in out of nowhere, they like that kind of change. But it's this unexpected where we feel like we don't know what's next, what's around the next corner, right, like that is what people? They end up clinging to what they know because they, you know. What is that the quote? The devil you know versus the devil you don't, right, they don't know what's around the other corner, and so that unknown can scare a lot of people.

Speaker 1 27:34

Yet I'm here to encourage you to, in some way, shape or form, step into the ability. I mean, I found this for myself and it's huge. Instead of being scared of the unknown, get excited over the ability. I mean, I found this for myself and it's huge. Instead of being scared of the unknown, get excited over the unknown. I don't see it as a what could I lose? What's negative around that corner? It's like, ooh, what opportunities are there? I wonder who I'm going to meet. Like, I allow the detours of life to get me excited because I always feel like they're detouring me to someone or something I needed to meet, experience or have in my life. And so it was when I realized the difference between pain and suffering. This was huge, right? I mean I've told you a lot about my story and my surgeries.

Speaker 1 28:19

I've been through a lot of physical pain in my life, in a lot of different ways, but what I recognized was that pain is inevitable. It's going to happen. Now or then you might stub your toe, roll an ankle, get into a car accident. Pain's inevitable, right? It's short-term and it's mostly physical, right, even though I am very aware that the pain is actually happening in your brain, not in the body. It's just the signals are being sent from, like, the point on the body where you think the pain is. The signals are being sent to your brain to tell you that there is quote, pain there. So, very aware that pain is a mental process and we feel it physically, right, so pain is inevitable. Short term it's felt physically, but it will pass Over time. We will heal. Most pain passes, unless it's chronic pain. Different story, right. Then we get into suffering. Now, suffering is more long-term and it is much more mentally derived.

Speaker 1 29:25

It's also a choice and that's really the big part of this right when I accepted that holding on to what was familiar, holding on to these people, places and things that were leaving my life, whether it was through death cycles and rhythms and changes in career, whether it's losing relationships or friends. I had to accept that by holding on to what was, I was choosing to lengthen the amount of pain I was in. I was turning my pain into suffering. I was taking what was supposed to be short term and I was making it a long-term process, all because I was being selfish. I still wanted that thing in my life. I wasn't ready to let it go. I needed to feel a certain way first. How selfish of me. So that's when I made a pact to myself especially when we lose someone, it is not about me, it is about them.

Speaker 1 30:40

So now, when I grieve, I do the process I talked about earlier, but instead of holding on, I honor them, I let them go and I let them rest, allow their energy, the process of actually transforming and moving on, because this choice to thus honor them and let them go allows the pain to simply run its course. It'll naturally dissipate over time when we let go. Unlike a lot of other people, they cling to the suffering, and that's because it's what. It's what, it's what's familiar, right and again, people get so. They get so stuck in clinging to that suffering because it's it's the only thing they have left of that person, place or thing and they're not ready to let go. And so, yeah, selfishly, they hold on to it. But instead, I want to encourage you to let it go, let them go. Let it go, let them go, let it transform, give it a new meaning and a new purpose, let it become something new.

Finding Support Through Phoenix Moments

Speaker 1 32:19

So this goes for others and yourself, right, sometimes we grieve not for the loss of others, but for the loss of who we were, because we, as humans, we adapt and we grow. So it's almost like a snake as it grows, it has to shed its skin so it can continue to grow. And so it's kind of like the first couple of times a snake sheds its skin, I'm sure it's a bit uncomfortable, right. It's like you're growing out of the clothes you're wearing, you're squeezed in there and you're like, oof, I got to peel this off, I need to go find a new outfit, right. I'm sure it starts out uncomfortable and then, after a while, it just becomes the norm. It's like, oh, time to shed my skin again. Look, I'm growing. Yay, and that's kind of how I see it is.

Speaker 1 33:10

I used to how do I say this? Because I was about to say I used to like who I am, but I love who I am, so I. So it used to take me longer to evolve. I think that's the way to say it. There you go. It used to take me longer to evolve, and I think it's just because I was clinging on to the familiarity of who I had been up until that point. It's my something else. But now I am absolutely enthralled to shed my skin on a daily basis, because I am always excited to become this next version of myself, because I am this version of myself, because I have gone through what I've gone through, because I've processed, because I've let go, because I have allowed myself to elevate and rise, and so now I shed my skin metaphorically on a daily basis, if not almost an hourly basis, depending on the day.

Speaker 1 34:24

But it's just like the phoenix you too can rise from the ashes while it seems like everything else around you is on fire, and I know, you know, what death and rebirth feels like. So we've all experienced the death of our youth, the death of a family member or a friend. Maybe you've experienced divorce, the death of a relationship. Maybe it was a career change, the death of an identity right. And sadly, not everyone has yet had a taste of rebirth.

Speaker 1 35:08

And I say that because not that you don't have it at your fingertips, not that it isn't an option, it's just that most people don't choose that route because it requires the right support to do so. It requires the right nurturing to make it through that process right. Very few animals in the animal kingdom give birth and then immediately leave their young I mean, I'm sure there are plenty and I'm sure you guys will just let me know which ones but most of which, especially mammals right, most of which the mother has to be there to protect, to nurture, to care for, to support that baby until they become able to stand on their own two feet and go on their own right. And that's the same mothering that is required during this process. You need someone who's going to hold your hand, someone who's going to catch your tears, sit with you in the mud, cheer you on when you have a win. But mostly you need someone who's going to both see and believe in the new version of you before you have fully evolved, someone who can almost see your future for you, someone who understands it's not going to be an easy path but knows that on the other side the impact is going to be wildly amazing. And it's so important to find people now, before we meet these moments of deep grieving and loss, so that you can have that coach in your corner, that person, that friend, that community you can go to and lean on. Don't wait until you're outside the airplane to think about a parachute. Pack your parachute on the way up. You might not be grieving or experiencing loss at the moment, but I'm telling you, life ebbs and flows, cycles and rhythms. You will experience this. So prepare now this and so prepare now.

Speaker 1 37:32

And one of my favorite aspects of supporting my community outside of the Hurt Collective and the In Hurt Circle is in my one-on-one containers, very, extremely highly limited. I used to do more one-on-one but as I'm moving more into being able to help more people through our group platforms, I've limited my one-on-one to only taking on one client per quarter. That's four people a year. That's it. That's so much of my attention, of my focus, of my energy all into these four people. And then everybody else is in a group format. Right, this is the deepest work that I do.

Speaker 1 38:14

It's one thing to ask your question in a group of people, or even if it's a small group like five or so. It's very, very different than doing work, one-on-one work. That gets straight to the core. There is a level of speed that happens in group because you can learn from other people, but there is a level of conviction that happens when you are one-on-one with someone and your shit comes up.

Speaker 1 38:43

So, find your human, find your person, find your guide, because this isn't a process necessarily. This phoenix portal, this phoenix process burning down in the ashes and then rising from them that's not something every coach can hold a container for, because many people will try and tell you how to rise from the ashes, what steps to take. Here's my blueprint, here's how I did it. That's not what we need. No, in these Phoenix moments, you need someone who is going to support you, who's going to ask you questions and who's going to guide you through the process, not guiding you by telling you what to do, but guiding you by asking you questions about where you want to go, what you want to do and walking the path with you.

You're Not Dying, You're Being Reborn

Speaker 1 39:35

Very, very different process, and this work is so deep, so intimate. You must find someone who fits you. So I'm not the only person on this planet that does this work, and yet you are over 30 minutes into a podcast listening to me talk about grieving. So it might be the right person for you and I just I don't want to talk about it too much more because I feel like it's just, it's already been hammered home.

Speaker 1 40:06

The truth is, if this resonates with you, if you feel like it's just it's already been hammered home, the truth is, if this resonates with you, if you feel like your world is burning down around you, I'm here to tell you you're not dying. You're being reborn. It might feel like you're dying, but it is not the end. It is simply the transition into a new start. So if you want the support, if you want the guidance, if you want someone to walk through this death and rebirth with you, then please reach out. I am so happy to be there to talk about whether or not we're a good fit, and if not me, then I have plenty of other friends who are amazing practitioners who do very similar work to me that I can refer you to them. So if you need it, reach out. I'm so excited to see who you become in this next chapter, as you rebirth yourself as this new version of you.